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« on: June 21, 2008, 02:40:01 AM » |
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Up for discussion...
Do u htink Byakuya or Kenpachi has a better chance to defeat Ulquiorra?
Based on their condition after their respect HC battles or at full health. We''l keep it broad for a while.
Something I brought up to bonky and Urusai.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 02:57:15 AM » |
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alright well...i think that kenpachi might be able to, it depends on the difference in strength from nnoitra to ulquiorra...since keeny could have taken nnoirta out in the beginning easily(or MORE easily) if he didnt mess around...but if he was serious he might be able to beat him. but he would prob. fool around since that is the way he is.
byakuya prob could take on ulquiorra if he lost the cocky attitude...he thinks that since he is of a noble family in SS that he is superior to all others...he wouldnt take ulquiorra seriously in the beginning either and he would wait until he has figured out that he is well matched and with a much lesser supply of power until he starts to fight for real.
so the main thing is: they would probably lose unless they lose some of their attitude and/or bad habits when dealing with enemies for the first time.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 08:42:57 AM » |
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i agree and at the same time disagree cuz i think ichigo mite wnt 2 take care of ulquiorra..dnt noe if he can beat him since he nearly got owned by grimjaw...buh kenny n byakuya can diliver an ass wuppin 2 him..
edit: speakin of possible fites who do u think wuld win in a fite between ichigo n kenny NOW??
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« Last Edit: June 21, 2008, 08:44:52 AM by Axel163 »
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 02:50:14 PM » |
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i think that ichigo might mention that he got beat by ulquiorra and kenpachi would wanna fight him since he's just looking for the strongest opponent to fight...and that's basically his life goal: to get the ultimate fight, even if it costs him his life.
or someone might hit a bit of sense into him and tell him that ichigo isnt the enemy and if they get out, he could fight ichigo again.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2008, 01:04:36 AM » |
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i agree and at the same time disagree cuz i think ichigo mite wnt 2 take care of ulquiorra..dnt noe if he can beat him since he nearly got owned by grimjaw...buh kenny n byakuya can diliver an ass wuppin 2 him..
edit: speakin of possible fites who do u think wuld win in a fite between ichigo n kenny NOW??
Ichigo would beat Kenpachi at this point. I n Vizard form, though Ken would take him more seriously as an opponent. Byakuya in a straight fight with Ulquiorra. Kido gives him a balance in the fight. If Ulquiorra releases his zanpukto, we may have another story on our hands. Remember kids, he has just beat Ichies ass with out releasing his sword...
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2008, 06:41:19 PM » |
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i agree and at the same time disagree cuz i think ichigo mite wnt 2 take care of ulquiorra..dnt noe if he can beat him since he nearly got owned by grimjaw...buh kenny n byakuya can diliver an ass wuppin 2 him..
edit: speakin of possible fites who do u think wuld win in a fite between ichigo n kenny NOW??
Ichigo would beat Kenpachi at this point. I n Vizard form, though Ken would take him more seriously as an opponent. Byakuya in a straight fight with Ulquiorra. Kido gives him a balance in the fight. If Ulquiorra releases his zanpukto, we may have another story on our hands. Remember kids, he has just beat Ichies ass with out releasing his sword... yea buh ichigo did sum damage in Vizard frm remember...plus he cudent hld the mask on 4 long at that time noww...he can hld it 4 [who noes how long the fite wit grimjaw was]...he mite jus win
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2008, 11:22:33 PM » |
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i agree and at the same time disagree cuz i think ichigo mite wnt 2 take care of ulquiorra..dnt noe if he can beat him since he nearly got owned by grimjaw...buh kenny n byakuya can diliver an ass wuppin 2 him..
edit: speakin of possible fites who do u think wuld win in a fite between ichigo n kenny NOW??
i also agree because the first time that thay had a fight it ended up in a tie sense nether one die so now even if Kenny has been training i think that ichigo was a better progress because sense the last fight he did not have bankai and as we see kenny doesn't have it or get it sence then so that's a point for ichigo and he now has the Vizard form witch give him the power to go up head-to-head with power with kenny so i say it like this Ichigo+bankai+vizard=kenny+pure power does not add up ichigo has progress too far for Kenny
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 04:22:46 AM » |
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good point. so you are saying ichigo is stronger than Kenpachi. therefore, he could also defeat Byakuya cause u said Kenny was stronger than Byakuya.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 05:25:47 PM » |
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i dont think any capt without a dual zanpakto can compete with a espada 4 or higher. #5 took kenpachi to his limits and uli, honestly, is at a level that is just bonkers. he blocks icchy's attack and urahara's blast with just his bare hands.
uli already admitted in his scouting report that ichigo has a reasitu higher than his, so its not a question of 'can icchy beat uli', its more of 'will he be ready when the final fight comes'
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 06:15:16 PM » |
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Urahara is a completely diff level of powerful. He is in a gigai that reduces how much power he has in the real world. Urahara could take Tousen and Ichimaru simultaneously. We have only seen a fraction of Urarhara's true strength.
I'm still not a %100 sure who will beat Aizen. Rather confused about who can beat his Hypnosis... Maybe the Kido Master can beat him?
I think one of the Captain Level Vizards (there are 4 Captain Class Vizards) can take Ulquiorra and the other top three Espada.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2008, 06:44:40 PM » |
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Urahara is a completely diff level of powerful. He is in a gigai that reduces how much power he has in the real world. Urahara could take Tousen and Ichimaru simultaneously. We have only seen a fraction of Urarhara's true strength.
I'm still not a %100 sure who will beat Aizen. Rather confused about who can beat his Hypnosis... Maybe the Kido Master can beat him?
I think one of the Captain Level Vizards (there are 4 Captain Class Vizards) can take Ulquiorra and the other top three Espada.
And then to add insult to injury in all his fights he all has use jest one hand for At and DF so you know that his not going all out
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2008, 08:50:58 PM » |
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u noe if ulquiria is stronger than urahara n urahara can take ichimaru n toesen y is it that theye are aizens right and left hands...i mean i doubt it and plus u saw how tosen cut grimjows arm off barely trying imagin him really aiming to kill
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2008, 11:16:18 PM » |
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Grimmjow is weak, though almost equal to Ichigo. Urahara, Captain Commander, Shunsui, Ukitake, The Top 3 Espada, and the Shop keep have levels of power we have yet to see. Aizen is quite powerful also, but most of ability come from his use of hypnosis.
We haven't even seen the Vizards real strength yet either. They contolled Ichigo whilst Uigo (inner hollow) was in control with out even releasing their Shikai.
Think about it. Ichigo's resolve has kept him alive, but his lack of experience has hindered him.
It takes 10 years to master Bankai. Ichigo has had his for what? A possible two years or so.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2008, 11:35:59 PM » |
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And saying that he has only had it for two year ichigo has only maybe master 3/4 of his true bankai well the power any ways
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2008, 03:25:17 AM » |
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correct, so the real smackdown is a comin
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